Live-Blog: 90210 2.15

23 03 2010

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EPISODE 2.15: What’s Past Is Prologue

  • Previously on: Ade kisses Gia to make her ex jealous, Jasper has photos of Annie’s accident, Silver and Teddy seemingly get together despite trust issues, Dixon wants to see his birthmom Dana, who shows up at the house
  • I like the ep title. It’s clever. And feels kind of foreboding.
  • Annie is jogging. At night. Never a good idea.
  • Sure enough, she sees Jasper drive by and gets spooked.
  • Debbie is introducing Dana to Harry. Apparently this picks up right where we left off last week.
  • Everyone seems nervous.
  • Dana explains that Dixon e-mailed him about wanting to visit.
  • She thought about responding but everything she wanted to say sounded better in person.
  • He’s very happy she came.
  • Annie walks in.
  • Dana and Annie are happy to see each other.
  • Debbie and Harry are shocked. They don’t know about last year.
  • Now Dixon and Annie have to explain. Dixon does the talking.
  • Dana apologizes. She thought they knew.
  • Dixon says he didn’t tell them because he didn’t want them to be upset.
  • He confesses that he never got out of the car because he wasn’t ready. But now he is. He thinks this is great.
  • Everyone else still seems nervous.
  • Dana says she’s sorry to intrude and there’s a hotel nearby she can stay at.
  • Dixon says Dana can stay with them.
  • Harry says absolutely. Debbie hesitates and then agrees.
  • Awkward to hear Dixon calls Debbie mom
  • LOL Teddy says the whole point to being in a relationship is to share two dishes at dinner.
  • They’re about to kiss when two girls come over and say hi. She’s turned off.
  • Then his phone rings. Some girl named Amy.
  • He says the girl programmed it in.
  • She says she gets it.
  • The waitress comes over…who, of course, knows him.
  • Overkill, folks! Overkill.
  • Silver purposefully orders what Teddy doesn’t want. LOL
  • Now Dixon and co are about to have dinner.
  • Dana asks to say grace.
  • Dixon volunteers.
  • I just noticed 3 Ds. Dixon, Dana, Debbie. Hmm.
  • Dixon says he hasn’t said grace in a while but it just came right back. They used to say it when he was a little.
  • Dixon says he doesn’t have a lot of memories of their time together but sometimes it comes back out of the blue.
  • Dixon seems so happy.
  • He recounts a memory but Dana changes the subject, asking when they moved to BH.
  • Debbie says how Harry grew up here.
  • Dixon says it was huge culture shock but Annie counters that Dixon fit right in, especially since he’s an athlete.
  • Dixon recalls how he used to play little league and Dana says it was a long time ago.
  • Looks like she doesn’t want to revisit the past.
  • Now we’re at Navid’s house. Presumably his home theater. Lila walks in.
  • He is watching anti-drug PSAs because he has to make one, as per Principal Harry.
  • Why is Lila visiting him at home?
  • Oh, to give him the new edition of the Blaze.
  • She warns him that it includes Naomi’s first segment.
  • She admits it’s worse than awful.
  • He hits play. (I can’t believe this is what the Blaze has evolved into.)
  • Naomi starts out by calling everyone West Bevers. LOL
  • She says her segments will be hot and spicy, and immediately goes into a blind item about a new couple at school.
  • And then a rant about hooking up in public. (Um, didn’t she used to, too?)
  • The segment is supposedly 7 minutes long. Navid and Lila agree to put an end to it.
  • Cut to Silver complaining to Naomi about Teddy.
  • Naomi says how Teddy is a player.
  • Silver says she needs to get comfortable with Teddy’s past.
  • Naomi says Silver is stronger than her because she would always be wondering about when he’s going to cheat.
  • She suggests Silver monitor his cell phone and e-mails, and follow him occasionally. LOL
  • Annie is putting out the trash when she hears a noise.
  • She looks around, sees nothing and goes inside.
  • But the camera pans around to Jasper, in his car, playing with a lighter.
  • 10 minutes in and I haven’t picked one quote yet. Hm.
  • The promos tell me Carter from The O.C. will be on Melrose Place tonight.
  • Dixon says dinner was the worst ever. Annie says it wasn’t that bad.
  • He says this was a mistake. Every time he tried to connect with his mom, she changes the subject.
  • He says he doesn’t know want to call her either.
  • Annie suggests spending time alone with her. She says he has to try because he’s waited too long not to.
  • Debbie asks Harry about the saying grace thing from the night before. She wants to know if Dana was judging them.
  • Harry says no.
  • But Debbie says they’re not coming off like good parents because they didn’t know Annie and Dixon took the trip last year.
  • Harry says they probably didn’t want to make them feel threatened. And they’re not. They have to let Dixon know they’re comfy.
  • Debbie sorta kinda agrees.
  • Teddy, Dixon and Liam have just finished surfing.
  • They’re joking around when Dixon notices his car is totally missing from the parking lot.
  • Ade and Gia are in the car. She starts singing along with the radio or whatever it is they’re listening to.
  • A song about some girl named Joleen. Jolene? Joline?
  • Gia says Ade has an amazing voice.
  • Ade ignores that and says if Gia has stuff to do with the Blaze, she’ll wait for her.
  • Gia calls her out on wanting to see Navid.
  • Ade admits it’s true. She says it’s because Navid almost got expelled for her.
  • Gia wants details.
  • She explains how she spoke to Navid and Navid said how he planted the drugs to take Jasper down.
  • And, she says, he wants to take Jasper down because he was selling her drugs.
  • Q1: How the hell am I supposed to get over a guy like that?–Ade
  • Gia says she’ll get over it when she meets someone else. Gia says that happened to her.
  • Ade is shocked and pleased to hear Gia has a crush and wants details but Gia isn’t divulging.
  • Now the guys are at school. Dixon is upset about his car still.
  • Navid comes over. They’re happy to see him back.
  • Liam says being suspended is like a vacation.
  • Q2: My mother says I urinated on the legacy of my ancestors.–Navid
  • Navid says he’s happy to be back because he can’t “destroy” Jasper from home.
  • The guys say it won’t be fruitful.
  • Navid says he needs to get Jasper back for dealing to Ade.
  • He then back tracks and tries to say it’s also about revenge for Jasper pushing him down the stairs.
  • Q3: Maybe this is less about Jasper and more about the feelings you still have for Adrianna.–Dixon
  • Navid says that’s not true.
  • They point out he hasn’t even looked at another girl since he and Ade broke up months ago.
  • Navid swears he’s going to ask someone out soon.
  • Silver is doing work with Teddy beside her.
  • She accuses Teddy of copying her and asks what she’s getting in return. He kisses her.
  • But then he says BRB, leaving his computer.
  • And of course some girl IMs him. Or e-mails, sorry. It’s Amy. Saying she can’t wait to see him.
  • Silver X-es out right before Teddy comes back. And gives her another kiss.
  • He seems kind of adoring.
  • Still at school. Navid and Lila are having fun editing Naomi’s segment. They’re piecing her words together (ala what Clare, David and Donna did in season 5 of BH90210) to create new sentences.
  • Navid asks Lila if she wants to have dinner sometime. He’s adorably awkward.
  • She’s taken by surprise but agrees. Just as adorably awkwardly.
  • Gia shows Ade a flyer for auditions for a lead vocalist for The Gloria Steinems.
  • LMAO at the name.
  • Gia says the band is made up of students and they are “rad.”
  • Gia says Ade has a great voice and needs something to help her over Navid.
  • Ade agrees she does need to get over him but a band won’t help. She thanks Gia for trying and calls her a great friend.
  • Gia looks disappointed.
  • Debbie is finishing yoga. With Kai.
  • He offers water. What, she didn’t bring her own?
  • Q4: Can I get it with a shot of tequila?–Debbie
  • Kai asks her what’s wrong.
  • And she immediately opens up! What?! Who does that?!
  • She explains how her son’s birthmother came home.
  • He asks how it’s going.
  • Debbie explains she’s not true how Dixon is going.
  • But Kai meant how is she doing.
  • She says she’s trying not feel threatened.
  • Kai asks her point-blank if she is.
  • SHe admits she is a little bit.
  • Kai says those feelings are valid.
  • And how would he know? Background would help. Fleshed-out characters would help.
  • Silver is telling Naomi how she just started dating Teddy and already it appears he’s dating.
  • She can’t bring it up to him because it would reveal she was snooping.
  • Naomi suggests they send someone he doesn’t know to the coffee shop to spy.
  • They see Gia and tell her they need a favor.
  • Cut to Gia acting suspiciously awkward at the coffee shop, hiding behind a magazine.
  • Not The Peach Pit, mind you.
  • We know it’s “Amy” there because the barista calls her by name.
  • She’s kind of hot.
  • Gia texts Silver that there’s good news–no sign of Teddy.
  • And then he walks in. Of course.
  • They enthusiastically hug.
  • She calls him “babe.”
  • Uht oh. Another sister?
  • Gia is still eavesdropping. She sits at the next table.
  • Amy tells Teddy he’s been AWOL.
  • And her parents are out of town and their house is available.
  • Teddy explains he’s dating someone.
  • She says she’s not going to tell and he doesn’t have to tell.
  • Q5: I really like this girl. I want to give this whole monogamy thing a try.–Teddy
  • Amy asks why he came then.
  • He says it was a mistake and gets up to leave.
  • She says she can try monogamy but it’s not who he is and it won’t work.
  • He’ll says we’ll see and leaves. She’s kind of dumb-founded.
  • Navid is at the Beach Club waiting for Lila.
  • He is wearing a red and white striped shirt and a blue and white checkered tie. Umm…
  • He tells Lila she looks great. She’s wearing a blue cheetah print.
  • What is going on, Frank Helmer?!
  • They go to have dinner.
  • They start to bond over the things their parents made them do: cotillion, the Quadratic equation (er, forumla, folks) and learning the Fox Trot.
  • Apparently they were Fox Trot partners. But Navid doesn’t remember.
  • They laugh it off.
  • Q6: So, I guess, technically, this is our second date.–Lila
  • He agrees with a smile. They’re kind of cute. I think I like her.
  • Dixon is at a sports bar with his mom. They’re watching basketball.
  • She asks what the score is.
  • He asks if she’s into sports. She says Celtics and Pistons.
  • She admits she gambles online to make the games more exciting.
  • Dixon is taken aback. He says he’s surprised.
  • She says they’re getting to know each other.
  • Q7: Do you want to get to know me?–Dixon
  • She says of course. Why else would she be there?
  • He says that last night was weird, with her changing the subject.
  • She says she remembers everything from the past.
  • She explains how one of the memories he brought was actually a product of one of her manic episodes and that’s why she didn’t say anything. She didn’t want the Wilsons to think she’s a worse mom than they already do.
  • Dixon says they wouldn’t think that. She couldn’t handle it and gave him up to someone who could.
  • Dixon says his parents are probably glad they have him.
  • Q8: ‘Cause, you know, I am quite the prize.–Dixon
  • Post-dinner, Navid and Lila are still hanging out at the club. They are joking around in a flirty-way about Navid’s poor dating skills.
  • He wants a chance at a third date.
  • Q9: Prepare to be swept away.–Navid
  • She confesses that when he asked her out, she thought he was doing it to get over Adrianna.
  • He admits that was motivating him. But now he realizes he likes her and wants another chance to go out again.
  • She’s sold.
  • And they kiss. It’s really innocent and sweet.
  • Ade and Gia are walking on the beach, giggling and whatnot.
  • Ade has 20 questions to guess Gia’s crush.
  • But the fun ends when she spies Navid and Lila kissing.
  • She’s very upset.
  • She asks what’s wrong with herself. She knew this would happen eventually.
  • She repeats that she has to get over him.
  • Gia points out that the band auditions are still going on.
  • Ade says she’ll try anything now. (Not drugs, Ade. Not drugs!)
  • Gia puts an arm around her and they walk off.
  • No Ivy so far. And no Naomi and Liam together. And I am so okay with that.
  • Ade is now auditioning. I don’t know what song it is. Is that bad?
  • She’s singing a capella and killing it. She is talented.
  • Oh, it’s that Joleen song. Jolene? Joline?
  • Gia is there. As are two other band members. Female, obviously. (Gloria Steinems and all.)
  • She finishes. Gia says she was good and they start to leave.
  • The band members stop her. They say they won’t hold call backs because she’s in. She blew them away.
  • Annie and Silver and Naomi are Crumbs. I love Crumbs!
  • Annie and Naomi are discussing how cupakes are so much betterthan cake.
  • Silver is bummed.
  • Naomi says she should be happy. Teddy didn’t cheat.
  • Silver says but she did send someone to spy on him. She didn’t trust him. That’s terrible.
  • Annie and Naomi say it’s done and they should move on.
  • Annie says sometimes people mess upa nd they need to move on.
  • She goes to throw somethin gout and spies Jasper sitting at another table.
  • She tells the girls they need to leave immediately.
  • Silver asks if he’s stalking her. Annie says she doesn’t want to talk about it. They leave.
  • Debbie asks Harry if she should txt Dixon because he should be home by now.
  • Harry says it’s fine.
  • But Debbie says maybe she’ll wait. Give him and Dana timd.
  • Phone rings. Bad news.
  • Debbie assumes it has to do with Dixon.
  • Not really. Cops found the car downtown, completely ruined.
  • Dana and Dixon come in laughing.
  • They apologize for it being late and say they had a good time.
  • Dana is going to walk Dixon upstairs. Aw.
  • Harry says to Debbie that all went well and she worried for nothing.
  • She says that her feelings are “valid” and it would be nice if her husband understood that.
  • Dixon is in his room. He goes on the computer to ByTheBookie.com. He clicks “Yes, I am over 18.”
  • He seemed to know that site already. No Google search or anything.
  • FYI all: Brandon had a sports gambling addiction in season 3 of Beverly Hills 90210, while he was in high school as well. It briefly resurfaced in season 6 while he was in college.
  • Ade arrives at rehearsal. One of the other band members, not one from last night, is kind of punk-goth-y. She starts to give Ade grief but then says they’re cool.
  • Lila walks in, late apparently. She is the bass player.
  • Ade and Lila are introduced. But haven’t they met already? Awkward, anyway.
  • Navid tells Liam and Dixon that he had a hot date last night with Lila.
  • Q10: Cool enough for you to move off your whole Jasper vendetta?–Dixon
  • Navid surprises himself and says yes. He realizes his vendetta did have to do with Ade.
  • Ade is freaking out to Gia. She joined the band to get over Navid but now has to work with his new girl.
  • Q11: Every day I’m going to be reminded of what I lost.–Ade
  • Gia snaps. She doesn’t want to hear about Navid anymore.
  • Ade apologizes for talking about him so much.
  • Gia says that’s not it.
  • Q12: I like you. The problem is I like you, okay?!–Gia
  • She’s practically crying.
  • Teddy and Silver are talking when she says she needs to tell him something.
  • She admits she read his e-mails, the message from Amy.
  • Teddy says nothing happened.
  • She admits she knows that because she sent her friend Gia to spy.
  • The brilliant Teddy says, “You spied on me?” Why do people always say that in these scenarios?
  • Silver says his past was making her feel insecure and she didn’t know if she could trust him.
  • But, she says, it doesn’t matter. She was wrong and it’ll never happen again because she knows she can trust him.
  • Q13: That’s great. But the thing is, now I don’t know if I can trust you.–Teddy
  • He says he needs space and despite Silver’s protests, walks away.
  • I feel like we’ve see this way too many times on shows. It just seems like such an easy storyline to do.
  • Jasper walks up to Annie and offers her a ride.
  • She tells him to stop stalking her.
  • He doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
  • She says she’s seen him.
  • Jasper says he’s just trying to help.
  • He says he got rid of the one piece of evidence linking her to the crime. THE CAR!
  • Q14: See, I’m just looking out for you.–Jasper
  • Close-up on Annie’s freaked-out face.
  • Fade to black.
  • Preview: The voiceover says “The censors forbid us from exploiting this storyline” and it shows Gia and Ade looking at each other. “So if you can’t say this” and Ade says to Silver and Naomi “I’m having these feelings for a girl. Does that mean I’m gay?” Then  the voiceover continues, “Or if you can’t talk about this.” And Naomi says, “A little lady-lady action might be just the thing for you” and then Ade and Gia lean into kiss as the voiceover says “You’ll have to watch to see this.” So much for not exploiting! (I know, I know. It was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek.)

Those are my thoughts. What’s yours?

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19 responses

23 03 2010
Wes

I honestly hate to say this but this episode was boring. The only interesting storyline to me was Dixon’ mom and Jasper stalking Annie. It was the weakest episode so far IMO but I loved the Lila and Ade in the same band twist and that Jasper stole the car. I thought Dana was the one that got it stolen because of her gambling.

23 03 2010
James

Hmmm, seems like there’s a lack of coordination between 90210’s production company and CW’s PR department because apparently, all these recent promos have become either misleading or not the exactly how it should present the show to viewers. There’s been a few episode promos from season 2 that I like but the ones since the March 9 episode have been, well…”off”.

23 03 2010
danielle

IA with Wes, I too thought that Dana stole Dixon&Annie’s car cause to pay off gambling debts & that’s the reason why she came to see Dixon in the first place… but I guess not. Not quite feeling the whole “Dixon gambling” storyline… HELLO BRANDON! My dad & I were like “why do they have to copy off of the old BH 90210”. To be quite honest the one thing I’m looking forward to is the whole “Ad/Gia” storyline. My dads like “Oh no! They’re not going to do that are they?!… This is why I like the old BH 90210 better” Um, we ARE living in 2010 they’re gay’s/lesbians/bi-sexuals all over the place, get over it. I really want to see what’s going to go on with that creeper Jasper. I’m also waiting for Annie’s mom & the yoga instructor to get it on, poor Rob Estes.

23 03 2010
Wes

@danielle Haha I like that you and your dad watch 90210 together that’s nice. I’m slowly warming up to Giadrianna though. But I like that they are borrowing old storylines but putting a new aged twist on them, it makes it more exciting.

@James I completely agree!! These promos and ads suck so bad! That’s probably why they aren’t getting a lot of viewers is because the promos make the eps look so stupid and boring when they are very dramatic. The PR for Gossip Girl should do the promos for 90210 because theirs are awesome and dramatic.

23 03 2010
James

I don’t mind the BH90210 references, being too young to watch the original show during its heyday, as long as stories like these remains relevant enough for such shows to tackle. I found out recently that last season’s Wilson sibling trip to Arizona was similar to Steve’s trip to New Mexico to search for his bio-mom while watching some old BH90210 episodes uploaded over at Youtube.

And I always think of 90210 as a cross between a teen and a family drama which what makes them different with GG and One Tree Hill which I’m hopeful such a status quo would remain on season 3 (if Lori Loughlin is given good enough storylines for her to stay on the show longer).

So the print and TV advertisements need to reflect what the show is all about, not just one part of it nor one image that does not really embodies what 90210 is about.

23 03 2010
James

To add as well, I hope the show could also tackle what many think is already a phenomenal internet addiction occuring to teens today: FARMVILLE!

lol

23 03 2010
Brandon M

I thought this episode was average, good stuff, bad stuff. It kept me interested. It would be nice to see the Peach Pit again though, it would have been perfect for the scene where Gia spies or the scene where Annie, Silver and Naomi see Jasper stalking Annie.

23 03 2010
Brandon M

BTW I warmed up to the Gia & Adrianna storyline finally.

24 03 2010
danielle

@Wes LOL yeah I got him hooked on watching BH 90210, he’s like obsessed now I got him watching the new 90210. I just hate Dixon so every storyline for him is pretty lame IMO

Oh now that I say Dixon… what ever happened to him working at the Peach Pit?! That died fast

24 03 2010
teendramawhore

Wes: You were quick! I saw your comment come in like 5 minutes after the episode ended.I love it! I’m sorry I couldn’t respond sooner than now. Did you mean this was the weakest episode so far of the whole series, this season, or the post-hiatus eps? Interesting thought about the car having to do with Dana. I would buy that.

James: 99 percent of the time, IMO, promos for all shows are misleading and not presenting/representing the episodes as they should. But I’m pretty sure the promos have nothing to do with there being a disconnect between the network and the production company (which, I’m also pretty sure, is The CW’s own). The network is very familiar with the storylines and approves the final cut of the episode. And I believe their PR department makes the promos and the network execs approve it. The question, then, is whether the showrunner has say in the promos and that’s what’s not clear. (I recall Mark Schwahn telling me how he was upset with one of their promos at the end of season 5. But, of course, Rebecca Sinclair could be very happy with the promos, for all we know.) I do see and hear very distinct feels to the promos for OTH, 92010 and GG. They all have individual personalities and I think the promos week to week stay true to those personalities. That said, I am having trouble remembering pre-hiatus promos for 90210 but these last 4 seem to be very much in line with each other. They are pimping a fun, light, playful, So-Cal feel. I do feel like that’s the show they’re trying to put forth. There’s drama…but we’re a fun show. I will say I don’t like the promos either, just because I never like how misleading promos can be and, in case this case, they are poorly representing a show that I think is poor to begin with.

Danielle: You know how much I love hearing your dad’s comments! And I am so glad you both brought up Brandon and his gambling storyline. I am intrigued by the Gia/Adrianna storyline. Looks like–according to the promo, heh–will be a pivotal ep for them. The Jasper storyline is going on and on and on. I feel I say this every week: there better be a good pay-off. I’m not sure Debbie and Kai are going to turn physical or *that* physical. We shall see!

Back to Wes: LOL at “Giadrianna.” That totally works! How much promos affect whether people tune in is an interesting question and I don’t feel like we know enough to suggest those are what’s causing the ratings drop as of late. Furthermore, I’m pretty sure the promos for GG and 90210 ARE made by the same people. As I said above, they are completely differently stylistically, though, as the shows have unique personalities/identities and the promos demonstrate that as well.

Back to James: I don’t them see as BH90210 references. I see one of two things being possible: 1) they’re demonstrating the ignorance they’ve shown in the past by not being aware that they are doing things the original memorably did or 2) they’re demonstrating the disrespect they’ve shown in the past by blatantly taking a memorable story idea from the original and copying it. I am okay with neither. You are right on by the Steve/Annie-Dixon trip comparison. I imagine I mentioned that in the live-blog I did for that episode last season but can’t say for sure without checking. Strongly disagree about 90210 being a cross between a teen drama and a family drama. I would say 90210 is the least family drama-ish of the six teen dramas (I cover here)! And even of just the three you mentioned, One Tree Hill is totally the most family-oriented, IMO. But back to Dixon and gambling. I am disappointed this being born out of the Dana storyline or, at the very least, born already. Why couldn’t the storyline have just been about Dixon and Dana? Why does Dixon need this other (blossoming) storyline? There are plenty of ways they could’ve done a gambling storyline with him down the line.

Brandon: The episode was average for me, too. Yes, The Peach Pit would’ve fit in perfectly in those two scenes. And, as far as I recall, there’s been no mention of Dixon working or not working there. I am split on it being MIA. Bothers me that it was used and abused last season and then dropped. But I’m sure using again would mean more abusing so…

I was trying to read into the ep’s title. The Past Is Prologue. So is the past going to repeat itself? How so? With whom? Annie and Jasper? Dixon and Dana? Silver and Teddy? I guess we saw a bit with Silver and Teddy–she thought the past was repeating itself with Teddy in that he was still being a player. I probably shouldn’t be reading too much into this. Many shows do have significant meanings to their titles–Gossip Girl is one of them–but 90210?

Something I saw on another site: this episode picked up at exactly where last week’s ended. And in last week’s Teddy was quite unhappy with Dixon’s confession (about the Silver drama). And this episode, Teddy and Dixon are total BFF again with no awkwardness or anything?

24 03 2010
Wes

Haha! Yeah I jumped online pretty quickly after it ended. Uhm I meant that it’s the weakest episode of the season in my opinion. Probably because I expected a lot more from this one. I thought there would be an Ivy and Naomi tense scene, a Lannie scene, a Nadrianna scene, more scenes with Debbie and Khai, and (eventhough I hate to say this) a Liomi scene. The only enjoyable stories to me was the Dana/Dixon thing and the Jasper stalking Annie thing.

Btw I still think that the girls got together a little too fast as friends. I can see them being cool by like episode 17 or 17 but they started having dinner and stuff together all happy and laughing in 14 and I thought it was a little forced but I am really happy that they are all getting along though.

You might be right TDW about the promos having nothing to do with the ratings but I just get so irritated when they have really dumb promos for good episodes. Jasper is suppose to try to commit suicide next week and they didn’t have that at all, they were just putting way too much focus on the Giadrianna storyline which I am actually enjoying suprisingly.

I miss promos like this:

and this:

24 03 2010
teendramawhore

Wes: I’m not sure why you were expecting all that. The only thing that surprised me was that there wasn’t a Liomi scene. But I think that was an intentional choice. And I’m not saying the promos have *nothing* to do with the ratings. Absolutely promos can affect whether people choose to tune in. But they’re not the only factor or the biggest factor–that was my point, and that it would be interesting to know more exactly/scientifically how much they affect the ratings. Furthermore, something I failed to mention before, The CW releases one or two additional promos during the week that are usually (emphasis on the usually) different in feel and storyline than the one that airs after the show. Have you been tracking those? I usually don’t. Can’t argue with the examples you gave, though–those are way different than what we’re getting now. As far as putting too much focus on the Giadrianna storyline in last night’s promo, in the first example you gave, it was all Liannie/Naomi. So focusing on one storyline explicitly is not new. Nonetheless, when they do that, it is interesting to consider all that has been left out. I mean, reading the official description for next week’s ep, you’d have no idea those things are going to happen if you only saw this first promo. And sometimes the opposite is true. The official description for next week’s Gossip Girl, for instance, says at the end “Blake Lively, Penn Badgley, Chace Crawford, Jessica Szohr and Kelly Rutherford also star.” Those are big, major characters who weren’t mentioned in the description but I’m sure they have some kind of story in the next ep. But people may read that, think they don’t and not tune in. And, lastly, we have to remember this is all in the eye of the beholder. You think the promos have been really dumb as of late, as you said. But if someone is totally LOVING the Giadrianna storyline or the Naomi-Liam-Ivy drama, I would think they also loved the last two promos and thought they were great.

24 03 2010
James

I tried not to make much of a big deal when they duplicate stories/make references from the original although for old fans, it is. However, being a direct spin-off the show needs a creative consultant, one who is familiar with the history and understands character development.

Whether it was coincidence or not, they may not have a choice of trying to avoid cases in continuity such as these being a direct continuation (and I hate trying to bring this one up over and over again).

But like I said earlier, if they don’t want to get reprimanded on ruining or rehashing stories from the original, they certainly need to hire any of the people who were involved with the original.

Even if there are those who want to distance themselves from the current series, there’s no denying that in order to give “90210” an identity of its own (which they could have succeeded with newer viewers but not necessarily for old ones), it need to recognize its past as well. I believe people like Darren Star and Charles Rosin are up for the task if given the opportunity.

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On where the episode picked up from last week’s: I think Teddy already forgave him when Dixon gave him the chance to punch his guts. Not necessarily angry for lying but since he confessed, it’s possible that all is already well since Tedz and Silver have officially become a couple from last week.

Just a thought: The Wilsons own two cars right? the red one that they used since the pilot and the silver/lithium one that Tabitha gave for Annie and Dixon. I wonder what become of the red car.

25 03 2010
teendramawhore

James: I am extremely confident in saying there is NO WAY Charles Rosin (and likely Darren Star as well) would be up for the task if given the opportunity to work on 90210 now. I’m guessing you haven’t read my interviews with Charles (or Larry Mollin). But you’re right–the show absolutely needs a creative consultant that is familiar with the original’s history. (Though consultants can be ignored. It even happened to Charles in season 6 of BH90210 and on Dawson’s Creek as well, I believe.) It’s not necessary, however, for that person to be someone who worked on the original. I mean, I didn’t work on the original and I would be incredibly qualified to oversee some “checks and balances.” They need what is called a researcher. All shows usually have them and they likely have one in general. But they need one who is either already very familiar with the show’s history or is given the task of watching all the past episodes or, at the very least, looking up relevant episodes, storylines and character histories when necessary. They’ve made it clear time and again they don’t have someone doing that. It’s incredibly irresponsible and insulting. But I don’t see it changing. We can move on from this, because I know I start to sound like a (bitchy) broken record about it.

It is possible all became well with Teddy and Dixon in the minutes after he punched him. I just wasn’t expecting it based on what we saw.

We haven’t seen that red car from the pilot? Then I wouldn’t assume they actually have it. A lot of times things used in pilots don’t appear again. (Or things that are used later on, for that matter, may disappear as well.) Example: the house in the pilot for Beverly Hills 90210 is very different from the house used in episode 2 onwards. But if the car that was stolen is the one that Tabitha gave them, then I would assume there is at least one other car that Debbie and Harry use.

25 03 2010
James

I’m getting a bit OC on this car issue I’ve seem to brought up :D:

The red car was featured for at least half of Season 1 prior to Tabitha gave Annie the lithium one.

Although we could assume that the Wilsons had two vehicles and each are meant to be used either for work and for school, it never came into mind like they had a system of which car to use until the lithium became the primary car for the siblings to drive to school since the start of Season 2. I could assume that offscreen, Harry still uses it to drive to school (and because he’s principal, he should take advantage of his specially-reserved parking place).

Then I started thinking about Harry’s routine on getting to school in season 1 and I think I found a plot hole. Since the red car before was what DIXIE (Annie and Dixon) use for their primary transpo, how was it possible for Harry to get to school since his kids are always seen leaving him behind at the Wilson household with Debbie?

Speaking of being seen, I only got to watch Harry driving a car once, and that was only in “We’re Not in Kansas Anymore”.

Hehehe, sorry. Just had to let that thought out. 🙂

25 03 2010
James

Forgot to add: And Debbie was initially all out opposed on owning more than 1 car but gave in as per Tabitha’s request.

26 03 2010
teendramawhore

You’ve definitely found a continuity error!

26 03 2010
pepper rigs

I wish they would show Teddy’s hot body more often!

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